{"id":8537,"date":"2022-02-24T03:17:49","date_gmt":"2022-02-24T02:17:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.infokuryr.cz\/n\/?p=8537"},"modified":"2022-02-24T03:17:49","modified_gmt":"2022-02-24T02:17:49","slug":"jedni-cesti-dobrovolnici-z-donbasu-do-kriminalu-jinym-metaly-aneb-kdo-chce-valku","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.infokuryr.cz\/n\/2022\/02\/24\/jedni-cesti-dobrovolnici-z-donbasu-do-kriminalu-jinym-metaly-aneb-kdo-chce-valku\/","title":{"rendered":"Jedni \u010de\u0161t\u00ed dobrovoln\u00edci z Donbasu do krimin\u00e1lu, jin\u00fdm met\u00e1ly? Aneb kdo chce v\u00e1lku"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"fb-root\"><\/div>\n<p><strong>Dle europoslance Vondry by se na Ukrajin\u011b mohli vyskytnout na\u0161i leg\u00e1ln\u00ed dobrovoln\u00edci. Vondra t\u00edm m\u00edn\u00ed lidi z \u010cR, kte\u0159\u00ed by bojovali na tzv. spr\u00e1vn\u00e9 stran\u011b. Na\u0161i dobrovoln\u00edci na Donbasu ale v \u010cR vyf\u00e1sli za svou \u010dinnost katr. Jak to, \u017ee jedn\u011bm mo\u017en\u00e1 met\u00e1ly, druh\u00fdm tvrd\u00e1 pry\u010dna jist\u00e1? Dotaz jsme polo\u017eili spisovateli a sociologovi Petru Hamplovi.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Pane doktore, sv\u011bt v\u0159e a u n\u00e1s je dost prohl\u00e1\u0161en\u00ed jak z \u0159ad politik\u016f, tak z \u0159ad VIP, kter\u00e1 berou dech. Evidentn\u011b existuj\u00ed lid\u00e9, kte\u0159\u00ed se na v\u00e1lku t\u0159esou. Sa\u0161a Vondra v Partii Tom\u00e1nkov\u00e9\u00a0\u0159ekl, \u017ee krom\u011b gran\u00e1t\u016f pro Ukrajinu by tam mohli j\u00edt sice ne na\u0161i voj\u00e1ci, ale na\u0161i dobrovoln\u00edci (samoz\u0159ejm\u011b na t\u00e9 \u201espr\u00e1vn\u00e9\u201c stran\u011b\u2026). Zp\u011bva\u010dka Langerov\u00e1 dokonce\u00a0<\/strong><strong>kontemplovala<\/strong> <strong>na soci\u00e1ln\u00edch s\u00edt\u00edch, zda j\u00edt s p\u0159\u00e1teli br\u00e1nit Ukrajinu\u2026 Nicm\u00e9n\u011b jin\u00ed na\u0161i dobrovoln\u00edci za tot\u00e9\u017e dobrovolnick\u00e9 p\u016fsoben\u00ed dostali des\u00edtky let trestu\u2026 Jinak Biden ve v\u010derej\u0161\u00edm projevu \u0159ekl, \u017ee NATO je sp\u00ed\u0161 p\u0159ipraveno br\u00e1nit \u00fazem\u00ed aliance, tzn. \u010dlensk\u00fdch st\u00e1t\u016f\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Petr Hampl<\/strong>: Zde nejde ani tak o Vondru. Mlad\u00ed snad ani nevid\u011bli v\u00e1le\u010dn\u00e9 filmy a nemaj\u00ed p\u0159edstavu, co by to mohlo obn\u00e1\u0161et. Evidentn\u011b tu m\u00e1me skupiny obyvatel, kter\u00e9 jsou nalad\u011bny pro v\u00e1lku. Po\u0159\u00e1d se jedn\u00e1 o men\u0161inu.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Dala by se ona men\u0161ina n\u011bjak je\u0161t\u011b charakterizovat?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>No tak p\u0159edn\u011b \u2013 m\u00e1 velmi n\u00edzkou maskulinitu, n\u00edzkou kondici. Nikdo z nich prakticky neum\u00ed se zbran\u00ed zach\u00e1zet. Ono je to p\u011bkn\u00e9 to klik\u00e1n\u00ed p\u0159i h\u0159e na PC, komentov\u00e1n\u00ed od stolu, kam pojedeme zachra\u0148ovat sv\u011bt\u2026<\/p>\n<p><strong>Lid\u00e9 na s\u00edt\u00edch se podivovali, pro\u010d Zelenskyj p\u0159ed objektivy fotograf\u016f b\u011bh\u00e1 (doslova) v z\u00f3n\u011b konfliktu v nepr\u016fst\u0159eln\u00e9 vest\u011b, kter\u00e1 mu je o\u010dividn\u011b mal\u00e1.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ostatn\u011b Lipavsk\u00fd taky p\u0159i podobn\u00e9m p\u00f3zov\u00e1n\u00ed\u00a0nevzbuzoval d\u016fv\u011bru.<\/p>\n<p>Jde-li o Langerovou a spol.: Zd\u00e1 se mi, \u017ee agiln\u00ed jsou mlad\u00ed pra\u017e\u0161t\u00ed intelektu\u00e1lov\u00e9 a um\u011blci. Ve skute\u010dnosti maj\u00ed chabou p\u0159edstavu, co se na Ukrajin\u011b d\u011bje. Neprov\u00e1d\u00ed si o\u010dividn\u011b re\u0161er\u0161e z tisku, neanalyzuj\u00ed hloub\u011bji r\u016fznorod\u00e1 m\u00e9dia. Pohled zaciluj\u00ed jednostrann\u011b.<\/p>\n<p>Nejv\u011bt\u0161\u00ed jejich omyl je, p\u0159i \u00farovni informov\u00e1n\u00ed mainstreamem se divit nelze, \u017ee si mysl\u00ed, \u017ee Don\u011bck s\u00e1m sebe ost\u0159eluje a sv\u00e1d\u00ed to na Ukrajinu. To je a\u017e neuv\u011b\u0159iteln\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Takhle se skute\u010dn\u011b mainstream vyjad\u0159uje\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Mus\u00edme zv\u00e1\u017eit aktu\u00e1ln\u00ed situaci a povahu medi\u00e1ln\u00edho diskurzu. Pitomosti t\u00e1hnou. To za prv\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p>Za druh\u00e9 ten skute\u010dn\u00fd mezin\u00e1rodn\u00ed konflikt na Ukrajin\u011b doposud nevypukl, by\u0165 jsme mu ale velice bl\u00edzko. Pro korpor\u00e1tn\u00ed byznys nen\u00ed v\u00fdd\u011ble\u010dn\u00e1 ani tak v\u00e1lka (z\u00e1le\u017e\u00ed, kde se nach\u00e1zej\u00ed tov\u00e1rny, pozn. aut.), ale nap\u011bt\u00ed pr\u00e1v\u011b p\u0159ed v\u00e1lkou.<\/p>\n<p>Burza se zakym\u00e1c\u00ed. Ka\u017ed\u00e1, zejm\u00e9na extr\u00e9mn\u00ed volatilita je p\u0159\u00edle\u017eitost. Stabiln\u00ed burza velk\u00e9 zisky nep\u0159inese rychle. Lid\u00e9 dne\u0161ka cht\u011bj\u00ed m\u00edt ov\u0161em v\u0161echno rychle.<\/p>\n<p>Jinak pra\u017esk\u00e1 kav\u00e1rna m\u00e1 mustr podle mainstreamu. Jak argumentuje mainstream, v\u00edme. V\u00edme to v na\u0161\u00ed postfaktick\u00e9 dob\u011b, kdy argument\u016f net\u0159eba. S v\u00e1\u017enou tv\u00e1\u0159\u00ed lze tvrdit r\u016fzn\u00e9 pitomosti a vyd\u00e1vat je za bernou minci.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Zaj\u00edmav\u00e1 my\u0161lenka, \u017ee p\u0159edv\u00e1le\u010dn\u00e1 atmosf\u00e9ra m\u016f\u017ee n\u011bkomu prosp\u011bt\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Tak si to p\u0159edstavte. Za\u010dne se zbrojit, je\u0161t\u011b se nev\u00e1l\u010d\u00ed, je tu ale odbyt. Kdy\u017e\u00a0vypukne ostr\u00e1 v\u00e1lka, je to p\u0159\u00edli\u0161 rizikov\u00e9 pro v\u0161echny. Ke konci hork\u00fdch v\u00e1lek jsou ohro\u017eeny majetky v\u0161ech. Ale to dusno p\u0159ed v\u00e1lkou? To se mus\u00ed jednat rychle, obejde se klidn\u011b n\u011bjak\u00e9 to v\u00fdb\u011brov\u00e9 \u0159\u00edzen\u00ed, jen kdo\u017e to v\u0161echno bude \u201erychle\u201c. No a kdy\u017e se v\u00e1lka konat nebude. B\u00e1je\u010dn\u00e9, odb\u011br zbo\u017e\u00ed (nejsp\u00ed\u0161e zbran\u00ed) u\u017e prob\u011bhl. Pro n\u011bkoho to m\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt velice v\u00fdhodn\u00e9. Nen\u00ed pochyb.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Z toho vypl\u00fdv\u00e1\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Sko\u010d\u00edm v\u00e1m do \u0159e\u010di, pane redaktore, \u017ee udr\u017eov\u00e1n\u00ed p\u0159edv\u00e1le\u010dn\u00e9ho nap\u011bt\u00ed je v\u00fdhodn\u00e9. M\u00e1 to ta rizika, \u017ee v\u00e1lka propukne, ale t\u0159eba taky ne.<\/p>\n<p>Jinak za sebe chci dodat, \u017ee tam je sofistikovan\u00e1 spole\u010dnost. My sice dnes m\u00e1me k dispozici to matematick\u00e9 modelov\u00e1n\u00ed\u2026 Kvalita rozhodov\u00e1n\u00ed je ale hor\u0161\u00ed ne\u017e v minulosti. Vid\u00edme to na \u00faprku, ned\u00e1vn\u00e9m \u201e\u00faprku\u201c Ameri\u010dan\u016f z Afgh\u00e1nist\u00e1nu a na \u0159ad\u011b doslova ne\u0161\u0165astn\u00fdch hospod\u00e1\u0159sk\u00fdch rozhodnut\u00ed t\u0159eba v EU, viz Green Deal aj.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Kde jsou pozitivn\u00ed v\u016fdcovsk\u00e9 charaktery?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Kde nevyr\u016fstaj\u00ed tahouni, jen tup\u00ed papou\u0161ci, tam nepom\u016f\u017ee ani diplom z Harvardu.<\/p>\n<p>P\u0159ipomenu: pot\u00e9, co se v Ir\u00e1ku nena\u0161ly zbran\u011b hromadn\u00e9ho ni\u010den\u00ed, v USA prob\u011bhlo mnoho psychologick\u00fdch projekt\u016f, kter\u00e9 se zab\u00fdvaly t\u00edm, jak bylo vlastn\u011b mo\u017en\u00e9, \u017ee mnoho \u00fa\u0159edn\u00edk\u016f na st\u0159edn\u00ed \u00farovni v\u011b\u0159ilo, \u017ee zbran\u011b hromadn\u00e9ho ni\u010den\u00ed tam jsou, a\u010dkoli tam nebyly.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Tony Blair i Colin Powell se n\u011bjakou dobu pot\u00e9 oba omluvili\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Po letech vid\u00edme, \u017ee ten stejn\u00fd dav d\u011bl\u00e1 naprosto stejn\u00e9 chyby, uva\u017euje-li stejn\u011b omezen\u011b, iracion\u00e1ln\u011b\u2026 Kdy\u017e Z\u00e1pad ohla\u0161oval, \u017ee\u00a0Rusko \u201eza\u00fato\u010d\u00ed\u201c a oznamoval konkr\u00e9tn\u00ed data a nic se ned\u011blo, je to on, kdo zhu\u0161\u0165uje atmosf\u00e9ru. Zkuste n\u011bkomu opakovat, \u017ee je agresivn\u00ed. Kdy\u017e to ud\u011bl\u00e1te v hospod\u011b, v lep\u0161\u00edm p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b skon\u010d\u00edte p\u0159ed n\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p><strong>V \u201ebou\u0159kov\u00e9\u201c atmosf\u00e9\u0159e m\u016f\u017ee p\u0159esko\u010dit blesk?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Je to tak. Pro\u010d ji p\u0159ivol\u00e1vat.<\/p>\n<p><strong>M\u00e1me te\u010f zm\u011bn\u011bnou situaci, Rusk\u00e1 federace se rozhodla pro vojenskou p\u0159\u00edtomnost na Donbasu, p\u0159ipom\u00edn\u00e1m, \u017ee to bylo pot\u00e9, co se na Ukrajin\u011b za\u010daly kumulovat modern\u00ed zbran\u011b, resp.\u00a0d\u00edky dod\u00e1vk\u00e1m\u00a0z USA a Brit\u00e1nie atd., kter\u00fdmi se \u201edodavatel\u00e9\u201c naprosto netaj\u00ed, kte\u0159\u00ed nav\u00edc ignoruj\u00ed, \u017ee dod\u00e1vaj\u00ed do zem\u011b s ob\u010dansk\u00fdm konfliktem\u2026 Chci se je\u0161t\u011b vr\u00e1tit k \u010desk\u00fdm dobrovoln\u00edk\u016fm.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Mn\u011b se n\u011bjak nezd\u00e1, \u017ee se s dobrovoln\u00edky z \u010cR roztrhne pytel. Nev\u011b\u0159\u00edm, \u017ee tam p\u016fjdou.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Neodpust\u00edm si, bude ostr\u00e1 v\u00e1lka? Se skute\u010dnou v\u00fdm\u011bnou bateriov\u00e9 palby nap\u0159\u00edklad atd.?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee nikdo nebude riskovat, \u017ee lok\u00e1ln\u00ed konflikt by p\u0159erostl do nukle\u00e1rn\u00edho st\u0159etu. Toto neprosp\u011bje odv\u011bk\u00fdm rival\u016fm \u2013 USA a Rusk\u00e9 federaci\u2026 Nav\u00edc podstatu to ne\u0159e\u0161\u00ed, ta je vnitroukrajinsk\u00e1.<\/p>\n<p>M\u00e1me zku\u0161enost s Jugosl\u00e1vi\u00ed sice, ale tam byla jednostrann\u00e1 p\u0159esila NATO ur\u010duj\u00edc\u00ed. Proto si st\u00e1le mysl\u00edm, \u017ee zde hork\u00e1 v\u00e1lka nebude.<\/p>\n<p><strong>D\u011bkuji V\u00e1m za rozhovor.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/cz.sputniknews.com\/20220223\/jedni-cesti-dobrovolnici-z-donbasu-do-basy-jinym-metaly-aneb-kdo-chce-valku-nazor-17763427.html\">Vladim\u00edr Franta<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dle europoslance Vondry by se na Ukrajin\u011b mohli vyskytnout na\u0161i leg\u00e1ln\u00ed dobrovoln\u00edci. Vondra t\u00edm m\u00edn\u00ed&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":8337,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[6],"tags":[1930,64,39,1052,26],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.infokuryr.cz\/n\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8537"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.infokuryr.cz\/n\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.infokuryr.cz\/n\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.infokuryr.cz\/n\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.infokuryr.cz\/n\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8537"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.infokuryr.cz\/n\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8537\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.infokuryr.cz\/n\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/8337"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.infokuryr.cz\/n\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8537"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.infokuryr.cz\/n\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8537"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.infokuryr.cz\/n\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8537"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}