{"id":13387,"date":"2022-08-10T04:24:46","date_gmt":"2022-08-10T02:24:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.infokuryr.cz\/n\/?p=13387"},"modified":"2022-08-10T04:24:46","modified_gmt":"2022-08-10T02:24:46","slug":"jan-schneider-koudelka-to-tak-nemyslel","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.infokuryr.cz\/n\/2022\/08\/10\/jan-schneider-koudelka-to-tak-nemyslel\/","title":{"rendered":"Jan Schneider: Koudelka (to tak) nemyslel"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"fb-root\"><\/div>\n<p><strong>Bezpe\u010dnostn\u00ed informa\u010dn\u00ed slu\u017eba (BIS) pokra\u010duje tam, kde Jirotk\u016fv Saturnin skon\u010dil: v\u00a0uv\u00e1d\u011bn\u00ed v\u011bc\u00ed na pravou m\u00edru. Zde podobnost kon\u010d\u00ed: Jirotka toti\u017e napsal c\u00edlen\u011b humoristickou knihu, p\u00ed\u0161e Jan Schneider v\u00a0koment\u00e1\u0159i pro Prvnizpravy.cz.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u0158editel BIS Michal Koudelka poskytl obs\u00e1hl\u00fd rozhovor pro web \u201eseznamzpravy.cz\u201c. Prvn\u00ed \u010d\u00e1st\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.seznamzpravy.cz\/clanek\/rozhovory-sef-bis-exkluzivne-premierovi-na-me-chodilo-kompro-vime-odkud-201537\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>\u201ePremi\u00e9rovi na m\u011b chodilo kompro, v\u00edme odkud\u201c<\/strong><\/a>\u00a0vy\u0161la 10.\u00a0kv\u011btna 2022, a\u00a0n\u00e1sleduj\u00edc\u00edho dne druh\u00e1, s\u00a0enigmatick\u00fdm n\u00e1zvem\u00a0<strong>\u201e<a href=\"http:\/\/www.seznamzpravy.cz\/clanek\/rozhovory-sef-bis-koudelka-rusum-vse-prochazelo-byla-to-chyba-201442\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Nelze \u010dekat, \u017ee Rusko bude pora\u017eeno jako N\u011bmecko v\u00a02.\u00a0sv\u011btov\u00e9 v\u00e1lce<\/a>\u201c.<\/strong>\u00a0Lze pr\u00e1vem p\u0159edpokl\u00e1dat, \u017ee Koudelka jako vysok\u00fd st\u00e1tn\u00ed funkcion\u00e1\u0159 rozhovor autorizoval, tak\u017ee citace z\u00a0n\u011bj m\u016f\u017eeme pova\u017eovat za skute\u010dn\u00e1 \u201eipsissima verba\u201c a\u00a0podrobit je zkoum\u00e1n\u00ed bez nebezpe\u010d\u00ed, \u017ee by BIS zase n\u011bco musela uv\u00e1d\u011bt na pravou m\u00edru.<\/p>\n<p>Za zm\u00ednku stoj\u00ed nap\u0159\u00edklad vrb\u011btick\u00e1 kauza. Novin\u00e1\u0159ka se Koudelky pt\u00e1:\u00a0<strong><em>\u201eTo, \u017ee bylo v\u00edce vy\u0161et\u0159ovac\u00edch verz\u00ed, \u0159ekl prezident Zeman. Jak si jeho slova vysv\u011btlujete a\u00a0jak moc to pomohlo dezinforma\u010dn\u00ed kampani?\u201c<\/em><\/strong>\u00a0Koudelka: \u201e<strong><em>Nebudu v\u00a0\u017e\u00e1dn\u00e9m p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b komentovat prezidenta republiky, ale tyhle \u00fatoky, \u017ee bylo v\u00edce vy\u0161et\u0159ovac\u00edch verz\u00ed, se objevovaly z\u00a0r\u016fzn\u00fdch zdroj\u016f.<\/em><\/strong>\u201c Novin\u00e1\u0159ka: \u201e<strong><em>A byla to le\u017e?\u201c<\/em><\/strong>\u00a0Koudelka: \u201e<strong><em>Samoz\u0159ejm\u011b, byla to le\u017e. Od po\u010d\u00e1tku byla jen jedna vy\u0161et\u0159ovac\u00ed verze, a\u00a0to ta, \u017ee za v\u00fdbuchem stoj\u00ed d\u016fstojn\u00edci rusk\u00e9 GRU.\u201c<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Z toho jde mr\u00e1z po\u00a0z\u00e1dech. BIS pracuje od sam\u00e9ho po\u010d\u00e1tku pouze s\u00a0jednou vy\u0161et\u0159ovac\u00ed verz\u00ed! Nic jin\u00e9ho, ne\u017e to, co vyhovuje politick\u00e9mu zad\u00e1n\u00ed, prost\u011b neexistuje, nen\u00ed mo\u017en\u00e9, nen\u00ed mysliteln\u00e9. Pak se \u010dlov\u011bk div\u00ed, \u017ee to dopadlo, jak to dopadlo. Jako kdyby \u010dlov\u011bk \u010detl ve st\u00e1tobezpe\u010dnostn\u00edch vy\u0161et\u0159ovac\u00edch spisech z\u00a0pades\u00e1t\u00fdch let!<\/p>\n<p>P\u0159ekvapuje pak, \u017ee z\u00a0Koudelkov\u00fdch \u00fast zazn\u011bla \u010dir\u00e1 desinformace, pokud nejde snad jenom o\u00a0trestuhodnou nev\u011bdomost? Koudelka pravil:\u00a0<strong><em>\u201eRusko mnoho let cel\u00fd sv\u011bt testovalo. A\u0165 to byl Krym, a\u0165 to byla Gruzie, a\u0165 to byl pokus o\u00a0vra\u017edu Skripala, a\u0165 to byly Vrb\u011btice a\u00a0dal\u0161\u00ed. \u2026 kdy\u017e do\u0161lo k\u00a0\u00fatoku na Gruzii \u2026\u201c<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Koudelka z\u0159ejm\u011b nev\u00ed, \u017ee 22.\u00a09.\u00a02009\u00a0<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/ct24.ceskatelevize.cz\/svet\/1383597-experti-davaji-za-lonsky-srpnovy-konflikt-vinu-predevsim-gruzii\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">informovaly<\/a><\/strong>\u00a0i\u00a0\u010desk\u00e9 weby o\u00a0z\u00e1v\u011brech expertn\u00ed komise Evropsk\u00e9 unie, kter\u00e1 vinu za rusko-gruz\u00ednsk\u00fd konflikt, kter\u00fd vypukl 7.\u00a0srpna 2008, dala Gruzii. Z\u00e1v\u011br je to autoritativn\u00ed, proto\u017ee komise vznikla na popud n\u011bmeck\u00e9ho ministra zahrani\u010d\u00ed Franka-Waltera Steinmeiera, pracovala pod veden\u00edm \u0161v\u00fdcarsk\u00e9 diplomatky Heidi Tagliavini, a\u00a0z\u00e1v\u011bry p\u0159edala gener\u00e1ln\u00edmu tajemn\u00edkovi OSN Pan Ki-munovi, p\u0159i\u010dem\u017e sou\u010dasn\u011b informovala i\u00a0v\u0161echny \u010dlensk\u00e9 st\u00e1ty Evropsk\u00e9 unie, t\u00e9\u017e ruskou a\u00a0gruz\u00ednskou vl\u00e1du. Do BIS tato informace bu\u010f nepros\u00e1kla, nebo ji Koudelka zazdil.<\/p>\n<p>Koudelka sv\u00fdmi dal\u0161\u00edmi slovy p\u0159ipom\u00edn\u00e1 vrcholn\u00e9 projevy normaliza\u010dn\u00edho re\u017eimu v\u00a0sedmdes\u00e1t\u00fdch letech. Posly\u0161te nap\u0159\u00edklad toto:\u00a0<strong><em>\u201eV dob\u011b, kdy bychom v\u0161ichni m\u011bli st\u00e1t jednotn\u011b spojen\u00ed a\u00a0p\u0159ipraven\u00ed d\u011blat v\u0161e ve prosp\u011bch t\u00e9to zem\u011b, sly\u0161\u00edme kritiku vl\u00e1dy, sly\u0161\u00edme kritiku kl\u00ed\u010dov\u00fdch postav z\u00e1konod\u00e1rn\u00e9ho sboru.\u201c<\/em><\/strong>\u00a0\u2014 T\u00e9m\u011b\u0159 doslova takto brojil tehdej\u0161\u00ed re\u017eim proti Chart\u011b 77. Strana a\u00a0vl\u00e1da v\u00ed, co je dobr\u00e9 pro tuto zemi. Jak\u00e1koliv kritika vl\u00e1dy a\u00a0politik\u016f je nep\u0159\u00edpustn\u00e1, proto\u017ee bo\u0159\u00ed jednotu: sbohem, pluralitn\u00ed spole\u010dnosti!<\/p>\n<p>A Koudelka h\u0159\u00edmal d\u00e1l:\u00a0<strong><em>\u201eA j\u00e1 osobn\u011b dezinformace nebo l\u017eivou propagandu pova\u017euji za jedno z\u00a0nejv\u00e1\u017en\u011bj\u0161\u00edch rizik. Proto\u017ee je to snaha rozb\u00edt spole\u010dnost. Rozb\u00edt jej\u00ed jednotu, rozb\u00edt d\u016fv\u011bru v\u00a0instituce, zpochybnit v\u0161e, co je dan\u00e9, a\u00a0t\u00edm ji oslabit a\u00a0z\u00e1rove\u0148 tak umo\u017enit protivn\u00edkovi, aby ji l\u00e9pe ovl\u00e1dl. Vlastn\u011b c\u00edlem dezinformac\u00ed mnohdy nen\u00ed \u0159\u00edct, \u017ee \u010dern\u00e9 je b\u00edl\u00e9, ale v\u0161echno je \u0161ed\u00e9. V\u0161echno je \u0161patn\u011b. Nestoj\u00ed to za to. A\u00a0v\u00a0tuto chv\u00edli u\u017e nastupuje ta dal\u0161\u00ed \u010d\u00e1st. A\u00a0to je ta p\u00e1t\u00e1 kolona.\u201c<\/em><\/strong>\u00a0\u2014 Podkopat d\u016fv\u011bru v\u00a0instituce! V\u0161echno je \u0161patn\u011b! Nastupuje p\u00e1t\u00e1 kolona ve slu\u017eb\u00e1ch imperialismu! Vnit\u0159n\u00ed nep\u0159\u00edtel se aktivizuje! Zpochybnit v\u00fdsledky, jak\u00fdch dos\u00e1hl n\u00e1\u0161 lid, veden\u00fd na\u0161\u00ed moudrou vl\u00e1dou!<\/p>\n<p><strong>T\u011b\u017eko v\u00a0t\u00e9to souvislosti nevzpomenout, jak aktu\u00e1ln\u00ed je i\u00a0dnes sklo\u0148ov\u00e1n\u00ed \u201eVzoru lid\u201c podle V\u00e1clava Havla:<\/strong><br \/>\nN\u00c1\u0160 LID \u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026. nedopust\u00ed, aby vymo\u017eenosti<br \/>\nNA\u0160EHO LIDU \u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026. byly od\u0148aty<br \/>\nNA\u0160EMU LIDU \u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026. a\u00a0aby kdokoli klamal<br \/>\nN\u00c1\u0160 LID \u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026 vol\u00e1n\u00edm:<br \/>\nN\u00c1\u0160 LIDE!<br \/>\nO\u00a0NA\u0160EM LIDU \u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026. a\u0165 rozhoduj\u00ed ti, kdo jdou<br \/>\nS\u00a0NA\u0160\u00cdM LIDEM \u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026\u2026. !<\/p>\n<p>A nyn\u00ed p\u0159ich\u00e1z\u00ed ona inkriminovan\u00e1 pas\u00e1\u017e, kv\u016fli n\u00ed\u017e BIS na sv\u00fdch str\u00e1nk\u00e1ch uve\u0159ejnila text, nazvan\u00fd\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.bis.cz\/aktuality\/uvadime-na-pravou-miru-udajny-citat-reditele-bis-533c0c61.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>\u201eUv\u00e1d\u00edme na pravou m\u00edru \u00fadajn\u00fd cit\u00e1t \u0159editele BIS\u201c.<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Zde jsou Koudelkova slova z\u00a0druh\u00e9 \u010d\u00e1sti zm\u00edn\u011bn\u00e9ho rozhovoru:<br \/>\n<strong><em>\u201ePokud n\u011bkdo \u0161\u00ed\u0159\u00ed, \u017ee Petr Fiala na Ukrajin\u011b nebyl, tak je to le\u017e a\u00a0ne n\u00e1zor \u010di\u00a0kritika. Jde o\u00a0to, kdo a\u00a0jak\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem tyhle informace \u0161\u00ed\u0159\u00ed a\u00a0do jak\u00e9ho kontextu je zasazuje, a\u00a0to u\u017e pak pohled na cel\u00fd probl\u00e9m m\u011bn\u00ed. Nebo vzpome\u0148me si na docela o\u0161kliv\u00e9 \u00fatoky na ministra vnitra nebo na ministryni obrany, kter\u00e1 d\u011bl\u00e1 velmi odhodlan\u011b a\u00a0velmi dob\u0159e svoji pr\u00e1ci. A\u00a0velmi odv\u00e1\u017en\u011b, mus\u00edm \u0159\u00edct. P\u0159esto m\u00edsto pod\u011bkov\u00e1n\u00ed \u010del\u00ed velmi nevyb\u00edrav\u00fdm \u00fatok\u016fm. Nebo zneva\u017eov\u00e1n\u00ed p\u0159edsedy Sen\u00e1tu a\u00a0p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b Poslaneck\u00e9 sn\u011bmovny. A\u00a0toto v\u0161echno m\u00e1 tendenci nahlod\u00e1vat d\u016fv\u011bru spole\u010dnosti ve st\u00e1t. A\u00a0to ve chv\u00edli, kdy \u010del\u00edme tak v\u00e1\u017en\u00e9mu ohro\u017een\u00ed. A\u00a0ty \u00fatoky budou pokra\u010dovat a\u00a0budou je\u0161t\u011b rozs\u00e1hlej\u0161\u00ed a\u00a0masivn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed, mo\u017en\u00e1 zr\u00e1dn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed, ale my na n\u011b prost\u011b mus\u00edme b\u00fdt p\u0159ipraveni reagovat.\u201c<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.regionalninovinky.cz\/language=cs\/zpravy\/politika\/v-totalitni-zemi-se-nesmi-kritizovat-vudci-ale-my-nejsme-totalitni-zem\/preview=true\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><strong>V totalitn\u00ed zemi se nesm\u00ed kritizovat v\u016fdci, ale my nejsme totalitn\u00ed zem<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>BIS na sv\u00e9m webu uv\u00e1d\u00ed, \u017ee cit\u00e1t, kter\u00fd se poprv\u00e9 objevil v\u00a0Parlamentn\u00edch listech, zn\u00ed:<br \/>\n<strong><em>\u201eZneva\u017eov\u00e1n\u00ed p\u0159edsedy Sen\u00e1tu a\u00a0p\u0159edsedkyn\u011b Poslaneck\u00e9 sn\u011bmovny m\u00e1 tendenci nahlod\u00e1vat d\u016fv\u011bru spole\u010dnosti ve st\u00e1t. BIS na to mus\u00ed reagovat.\u201c<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>A tento cit\u00e1t je pr\u00fd podle BIS \u201ev\u00fdznamov\u011b jin\u00fd ne\u017e origin\u00e1ln\u00ed\u201c!<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Po prost\u00e9m srovn\u00e1n\u00ed obou citac\u00ed mus\u00edme konstatovat, \u017ee BIS l\u017ee. Av\u0161ak jej\u00ed \u0159editel v\u00a0tomt\u00e9\u017e rozhovoru tvrd\u00ed, \u017ee \u201eproti l\u017ei se d\u00e1 bojovat jedin\u011b pravdou.\u201c Komu tedy vlastn\u011b Koudelka vel\u00ed? A\u00a0kdy\u017e vel\u00ed, poslouchaj\u00ed ho v\u00a0BIS v\u016fbec?<\/p>\n<p><strong>T\u011b\u017eko v\u00a0t\u00e9to souvislosti nevzpomenout jin\u00e9ho klasika \u010desk\u00e9 poezie, Egona Bondyho, jeho\u017e dv\u011b b\u00e1sn\u011b pou\u017eili Plastic People do jedn\u00e9 p\u00edsn\u011b s\u00a0n\u00e1v\u011bt\u00edm. Zn\u011blo to takto:<\/strong><br \/>\nSt\u00e1ty nehanob\u00edm. V\u016fbec \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e9. Nikdy. Bondy<br \/>\nAch to st\u00e1tu hanoben\u00ed, nad to nen\u00ed, nad to nen\u00ed.<br \/>\nP\u0159\u00edslu\u0161n\u00edk se na n\u00e1s k\u0159en\u00ed, \u017ee m\u00e1 fr\u010dku k\u00a0pov\u00fd\u0161en\u00ed.<\/p>\n<p>Na pravou m\u00edru uv\u00e1d\u011bj\u00edc\u00ed koment\u00e1\u0159 BIS pokra\u010duje tvrzen\u00edm, \u017ee\u00a0<strong><em>\u201ejak je z\u00a0origin\u00e1ln\u00edho textu patrn\u00e9, tak je \u0159e\u010d obecn\u011b o\u00a0vztahu spole\u010dnosti k\u00a0dezinformac\u00edm, nen\u00ed zde o\u00a0\u010dinnosti BIS \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e1 zm\u00ednka. \u2026 Z\u00e1v\u011br odpov\u011bdi je pouze konstatov\u00e1n\u00edm, \u017ee my (spole\u010dnost obecn\u011b) na n\u011b mus\u00edme b\u00fdt p\u0159ipraveni reagovat.\u201c<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>To u\u017e je v\u00e1\u017en\u011bj\u0161\u00ed. Doposud platil p\u0159edpoklad, \u017ee Koudelka mluv\u00ed pouze z\u00a0pozice \u0159editele BIS. Z\u00e1v\u011br odpov\u011bdi v\u0161ak BIS (aby se vyhnula podez\u0159en\u00ed, \u017ee si na zneva\u017eovatele politik\u016f brous\u00ed dr\u00e1py) interpretuje tak, \u017ee Koudelku vlastn\u011b pasuje na mluv\u010d\u00edho cel\u00e9 spole\u010dnosti. O\u00a0\u010dinnosti BIS zde nen\u00ed zm\u00ednka, plukovn\u00edk Koudelka burcuje celou spole\u010dnost. Mo\u017en\u00e1 se k\u0159en\u00ed, \u017ee kone\u010dn\u011b dos\u00e1hne t\u00e9 fr\u010dky k\u00a0pov\u00fd\u0161en\u00ed na gener\u00e1la.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Nezb\u00fdv\u00e1, ne\u017e v\u0161em t\u011bm oprav\u00e1\u0159\u016fm v\u00fdrok\u016f \u0159editele BIS, v\u010detn\u011b jeho samotn\u00e9ho, p\u0159ipomenout, co to vlastn\u011b maj\u00ed naps\u00e1no ve znaku Bezpe\u010dnostn\u00ed informa\u010dn\u00ed slu\u017eby: \u201eAudi, vide, tace, si vis vivere cum pace.\u201c<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Neboli \u010desky: \u201eNaslouchej, pozoruj a\u00a0ml\u010d, chce\u0161-li v\u00a0klidu \u017e\u00edti.\u201c<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.regionalninovinky.cz\/zpravy\/politika\/jan-schneider-koudelka-to-tak-nemyslel\/\">Prvn\u00ed zpr\u00e1vy<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bezpe\u010dnostn\u00ed informa\u010dn\u00ed slu\u017eba (BIS) pokra\u010duje tam, kde Jirotk\u016fv Saturnin skon\u010dil: v\u00a0uv\u00e1d\u011bn\u00ed v\u011bc\u00ed na pravou m\u00edru&#8230;.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":1180,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[6],"tags":[146,28,29,187],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.infokuryr.cz\/n\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13387"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.infokuryr.cz\/n\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.infokuryr.cz\/n\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.infokuryr.cz\/n\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.infokuryr.cz\/n\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=13387"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.infokuryr.cz\/n\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13387\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.infokuryr.cz\/n\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1180"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.infokuryr.cz\/n\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=13387"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.infokuryr.cz\/n\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=13387"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.infokuryr.cz\/n\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=13387"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}